Independent Lens

You foul spirit of deafness, take your hands off this woman in Jesus' name. Lord, let these ears be open! There it is.

Banachek

and as I get up close, I notice in his ear that there's an earpiece. There's no ear hole. It's a little piece of plastic in there, and I come back to Randi. I says, "I think I know what's going on."

Randi

I said, "What's up?" He said, "He's wearing a hearing aid in his left ear." Now, a man who heals the deaf you wouldn't think would be wearing a hearing aid.

Popoff

Well, how do I sound now? Loud. Loud?

Randi

At that point, I realized we needed some technical help, so I enlisted, uh, the aid of a private investigator named Alec Jason.

Banachek

Stand by. And...action.

Jason

One day, Randi called me and suggested that Peter Popoff was using radio transmissions, but they couldn't really figure out how it was done, and they wanted to know if I could intercept it or detect it. I said, I certainly couldn't guarantee it, less than 50/50, maybe, you know, 25%.

Randi

We knew that Popoff had a service, as he called it, happening in San Francisco, and we figured we'd better be there.

Banachek

Do you support Peter's ministry financially? Every dime I can. Yeah. What brings you here today? Well, I'm expecting a miracle, physical healing.

Jason

The day of the event, I dressed as a security guard, complete uniform-- badge, shirt, radio, keys.

Randi

I appeared in disguise as Adam Jersin. And if you put those words together and mix them up, they spell "James Randi."

Jason

So I have my scanner going, and it's looking for new frequencies, anything new that's not there normally. Get ready. Get ready. Praise God. Suddenly on the scanner, one of the lights came on saying there's a signal, and the scanner has stopped at that frequency, and I hear what I realize are now footsteps, high-heel footsteps, on a hard surface... How many of you believe it's all right to praise the Lord? and then I hear someone coming closer and closer to the microphone, and the woman's voice said, "Hello, Petey." Elizabeth Popoff,

on radio

Hello, Petey. Can you hear me? If you can't, you're in trouble.

Jason

Yes! They were using a radio frequency. I found it.

Peter Popoff

In the name of Jesus. Elizabeth,

on radio

Jodi Dean. Jodi Dean. Is it Jodi? Jodi?