Erika Bullock:
The answer to the questions is not to just change the way we teach — that's not the only answer. The answer to the question is not to just support parents to be more mathematically literate — that's not the only answer. The answer to the question is not to just change the curriculum — that's an important answer, but it's not the only answer. The answer is not to pay teachers more — that's not the only answer. So, all of these things compound on top of each other to create a situation where the only way that we can actually make some of these things actionable is to, actually, really look at the expanse of the challenge and then start to pick away at each one. And I think what we've tried to do is kind of pick in one direction, which is usually through schools and through curriculum, and that just — it went through it — to really make a difference in what we're seeing. So, I would say education is the only thing that touches everything. If you want to think about the issues that are raised in [Counted Out], we're thinking about housing policy. Do I have a house that I can live in? Do I have food that I can eat? When I go to your school, if I'm hungry, I don't care what your math is, I really don't. So, you know, food insecurity, housing policy, health care — all of these things are questions that all need to be answered before the child even sits in the desk in the classroom. If we're not looking at all of those levers as things that get us to the goals that the film is trying to put forward, or the goals that we hold for ourselves, our families, and our communities, then none of this ever becomes actionable.