INTERVIEWER
Ellie, tell me a little bit about what you learned about your painting today.
GUEST
Well, let's see. I learned where it was painted, in New Mexico, probably in the '20s. This man studied in France, in Europe, with three friends. And they all painted mostly Indians, the western life. And the frame is carved, more or less, to go with the painting. She didn't think he carved it, but they tried to pick up the western theme of the Indians with this. And these are Indian symbols on the frame.
INTERVIEWER
Tell me a little bit about what Betty Krulik said about the value.
GUEST
Very good. Lots of money, $75,000. We thought it was around $35,000. So it's a big jump. It's a $45,000 jump. $40,000 anyway.
INTERVIEWER
I hear your family is interested in collecting these kinds of paintings.
GUEST
Well, my mother-in-law collected this, and she collected Indian baskets throughout California. She would go from one end of the United States to the other and buy Indian baskets for a dollar, or two dollars. So she had quite a collection, and she donated them to the Oakland Museum, most of them.
INTERVIEWER
How did you find this painting?
GUEST
She had bought it, I think, after she got married. They had enough money to buy it, and I think they bought it for around $300.
INTERVIEWER
How do you have it displayed now?
GUEST
Well, it's in our living room, nothing special, you know.
INTERVIEWER
Do you have any plans for the painting after today?
GUEST
Go right back on the wall. And eventually go to family. Keep it in the family, and keep it insured.
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