GUEST
I bought it at an auction in 1985 in Charlottesville, Virginia.
APPRAISER
Okay. And how much did you pay for the lamp at that time?
GUEST
$65. It looked like a lamp I had seen in the movie The Sting with Paul Newman.
APPRAISER
Okay.
GUEST
And I'd seen that lamp and I liked it. I said, "That's neat." And I saw it, and it sort of looked like a little mushroom, and I said, "I gotta have it." So I bought it. I did read a magazine not long after that that mentioned the maker, and it said lamps can sell up to $1,500.
APPRAISER
Okay. And that maker, did you see a name?
GUEST
Yeah, Dirk Van Erp.
APPRAISER
Dirk Van Erp. Well, that is what you have here. It is a lamp by Dirk Van Erp. And we're going to take a look at the bottom, where he signed his work. And we can see on the underside his windmill mark and his name, Dirk Van Erp. And one thing to note here is the closed box. That closed box dates this lamp for us to circa 1910 to 1912.
GUEST
All right.
APPRAISER
Which is a bit earlier, because Dirk Van Erp emigrated to America in the late 19th century. He was a Dutch immigrant who came here and settled in Northern California.
GUEST
Right.
APPRAISER
And he began working in the Oakland and San Francisco areas and became a pioneer and leading figure in the American Arts and Crafts decorative arts field. And today, he's recognized as one of the premier makers of American Arts and Crafts decorative objects. So the first thing that is a major statement of "Here I am, I'm a great maker of American Arts and Crafts" is these rivets in the copper that are holding the top of the lamp on. And he's used four rivets per strap, and he's showing you the rivets and the strap. He's not hiding them under the corona of the lamp. And then as we move on down the strap, we do see the rivets at the edge of the lampshade as well. So this lampshade is made of copper and mica, and the condition is really good here. So we've got a really early, rare Van Erp lamp in good condition, though it is a bit dirty and it could benefit from a bit of a clean-up. But it's in great shape and it's a great thing, and I would expect this at auction to sell for in the region of $20,000 to $25,000.
GUEST
You're kidding me.
APPRAISER
I am not kidding.
GUEST
Wow.
APPRAISER
Van Erp lamps have diminished in value a bit recently. Ten years ago, I might have said $40,000 to $50,000.
GUEST
Whoa.
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