PBS American Portrait

Oh, wow, you're really coming the 19th. Wow, how exciting. - Yeah. I didn't realize it was Father's Day. So when you texted me, like, "Are you planning Father's Day?" I was like, "When is Father's Day?" And then I quickly, like, Googled it, and I was like, "Oh, sh--." I don't think I'm gonna-- I can anticipate, like, how I'm gonna feel or whatever. I--I don't think that at all, and like... Yeah. - Been thinking about it. Like, there were definitely moments where, like, I just felt like, "Man," like I want him to be there for everything now. Like, he wasn't there for, like, all these, like, really pivotal moments in my life. Yeah, just like, the feeling of being wronged is, like, really strong. When you have family in prison, it's so

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traumatic and so awful that you, like, learn how to live, like, separately from that. - Right. You, like, totally disassociate. Yeah. Talking to my sister is really great. We have our own unique relationship with him, but we still are sisters who went through, you know, a really traumatic experience. I mean, I remember when we would go visit him in prison. Like, every single time after would be, like, a break-down, crying, like-- or anger. Like, angry, like, just so... It's so traumatic to see someone you love be treat-- be dehumanized in front of you and, like, have to just kind of, like, take that. And so now that he's out, like, we're, like, really reforming these relationships. So I'm really excited, and I'm really happy she's gonna be there also. I gotta bring this, specifically, 'cause it's my--my dad's watch. This is our dad, you know, and like, we want to support him and support each other and...we'll see how it goes.