What's Happening in Washington?
>> YES, ONE OF THE THINGS THAT WE'VE LEARNED OVER THE PAST SEVERAL YEARS IS THAT THE POWER OF REPETITIVE DISINFORMATION, IN OTHER WORDS, THINGS THAT PEOPLE SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN, SLOGANS, MEMES, STORIES, ALTERED VIDEO, THAT THAT IS ACTUALLY MORE POWERFUL NOW THAN MANY REAL LIFE EXPERIENCES. WE SEE IT DURING THE PANDEMIC, NOT JUST IN THE UNITED STATES, BUT IN MANY COUNTRIES, THAT THE EFFECT OF ONLINE DISINFORMATION ABOUT VACCINES IS STRONGER THAN REAL LIFE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM PEOPLE THAT -- FROM TRUSTED SOURCES, FROM FAMILY DOCTORS, FROM PHYSICIANS, FROM LOCAL HOSPITALS. AND SO THE POWER OF ONLINE PROPAGANDA IS NOW SOMETHING THAT I THINK WE'RE JUST BEGINNING TO. YOU MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING THINK CHINA AND RUSSIA,ND I PARTICULARLY RUSSIA, UNDERSTOODE UNITED STATES IS BEGINNING TO LEARN HOW TO DEAL WITH THAT. IT'S A VERY SHARP LEARNING CURVE. >> AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP VERY SUCCESSFULLY PROMOTED THROUGHOUT IT. PRESIDENCY AND EVEN AFTER SORT OF DON'T BELIEVE WHAT YOUSI TELL YOU. RICHARD, THIS BIPARTISAN -- OR THIS PARTISAN BRAWL IS TAKING PLACE BEFORE THE COMMITTEE HAS EVEN BEGUN ITS WORK. I'M CURIOUS TO GET YOUR PERSPECTIVE GIVEN YOUR BACKGROUND. YOU HAVE BEEN INVOLVED IN THE WATERGATE INVESTIGATION, YOU WERE A SPECIAL PROSECUTOR THERE. YOU WERE A MEMBER OF THE 9/11 COMMISSION. HOW IMPORTANT IS AN INVESTIGATION INTO THE JANUARY 6th INSURRECTION RIGHT NOW, A BIPARTISAN INVESTIGATION? >> I THINK IT'S CRITICAL THAT AMERICA TAKES NOTE OF WHAT HAPPENED, WHAT THE MOTIVATIONS OF THESE INSURRECTIONISTS WERE, WHICH IT APPEARS TO ME TO BE TO DISRUPT THE CONSTITUTIONAL PROCESS THAT IS AT THE VERY HEART OF OUR DEMOCRACY, THAT IS THE TRANSFER OF POWER FROM ONE ADMINISTRATION TO ANOTHER WITHOUT ARMS, BUT PEACEFULLY. AND THAT HAS SHOWN TO BE A HALLMARK OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY, AND HAS MADE US A LIGHTHOUSE AMONG NATIONS FOR DEMOCRACY. SO TO HAVE A BIPARTISAN INVESTIGATION, AS WE DID WITH 9/11, WHERE WE DEALT WITH A HORRENDOUS ACT WHICH COULD HAVE BEEN POLITICIZED, BUT INSTEAD THE MEMBERS OF THE COMMISSION WERE ABLE TO PUT ASIDE WHATEVER POLITICAL AND PARTISAN IMPULSES THEY HAD IN FAVOR OF DOING THE WORK OF THE PEOPLE, AND TO
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