Amanpour and Company

>> WELL, IT'S HEARTBREAKING. AS YOU CAN SEE, THIS IS NOT JUST A MILITARY CATASTROPHE NOW. IT'S A HUMANITARIAN CATASTROPHE AND WE SNEAD TO FOCUS ON THE SUFFERING NOW OF TENS OF MILLIONS OF AFGHANS WHO HAVE BEEN PLUNGED BY A VERY RECKLESS AND UNNECESSARY DECISION, I'M AFRAID, BY PRESIDENT BIDEN INTO MISERY, AND WE SHOULD NOT -- I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN VERY SAD OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS IS IN EUROPE AND THE UNITED STATES PEOPLE PUTTING BLAME ON THE AFGHANS SOMEHOW SUGGESTING THIS IS THEIR FAULT, BUT THERE'S LITERALLY NO COINCIDENCE BETWEEN THE FACT THAT WE REMOVED THE AIR POWER AND MECHANISMS FROM THE AFGHAN ARMY AND IT'S ALLOWED THE TALIBAN TO CAPTURE THE COUNTRY IN A MATTER OF DAYS. >> BUT YET YOU HEARD PASHTANA THERE LEVY QUITE A BIT OF BLAME TOWARD THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT AND THE MILITARY ITSELF, AND SHE TALKED ABOUT CORRUPTION. THIS IS AN ARGUMENT AND A RESPONSE THAT WE'RE HEARING FROM MANY WHO SUPPORT THE PRESIDENT'S DECISION FOR LEAVING AND QUITE FRANKLY, THOSE THAT DON'T EVEN SUPPORT IT THAT THERE'S BLAME TO GO AROUND, AS WELL, SPECIFICALLY TO THE AFGHAN GOVERNMENT. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE TO THAT? >> IT'S EXTREMELY UNFOUND. YES, THERE'S CORRUPTION IN AFGHANISTAN. YES, AFGHANISTAN IS A VERY POOR, FRAGILE COUNTRY. MANY WEALTHIER COUNTRIES LIKE NIGERIA AND PAKISTAN, IT'S GOT SIMILAR PROBLEMS. WHAT WAS DIFFERENT ABOUT AFGHANISTAN IS THAT WE WERE ABLE TO CONTAIN A TALIBAN FOR 20 YEARS. WE WERE ABLE TO ALLOW IMPROVEMENTS FOR MILLIONS OF LIVES AND GIRLS GOING TO SCHOOL AND EXTRAORDINARY TRANSFORMATION AND I RUN A NON-PROFIT IN AFGHANISTAN AND WE'VE SEEN INCREDIBLE CHANGES IN PEOPLE'S LIVES AND IT'S UNRECOGNIZABLE IN THE CITY AND TEN TIMES THE SIZE AND IT'S EDUCATED AFGHAN PEOPLE AND WE WERE DOING IT WITH THE TINY PRESENCE. PRESIDENT BIDEN IS SOMEHOW PRETENDING THIS IS ANOTHER VET VIETNAM. THERE WERE NO CASUALTIES BEING SUFFERED BY THE U.S., UK OR OTHERS. WE ARE IN A SITUATION WHERE WE ARE PROVIDING LIGHT AIR SUPPORT AND WE COULD HAVE DONE THAT INDEFINITELY INSTEAD OF WHICH WE HAVE RECKLESSLY PULLED THE RUG OUT FROM UNDER THE AFGHAN NATIONAL ARMY AND WE HAVE CREATED THIS CHAOS AND WE SHOULD FEEL DEEPLY ASHAMED.