Devi Sridhar: It's Too Soon To Tell if Trump's in the Clear
>> SO, I MEAN, I KNOW THAT YOU'RE NOT THE PRESIDENT'S DOCTOR. YOU HAVEN'T EXAMINED HIM. FAUCI ALSO SAYS THAT HE BELIEVES THAT IS THE -- ANYWAY, THE REGENERON GROUP OF TREATMENTS HE'S GETTING WHICH HAS HELPED HIM. WOULD YOU EXPECT, YOU KNOW, EVEN WITH THESE -- THIS COCKTAIL THAT HE'S GETTING THAT THE NORMAL PROCESS MIGHT UNFOLD, LIKE IT COULD TAKE SEVERAL DAYS TO SHOW THE WORST SYMPTOMS? >> YEAH. THAT'S WHAT WE'VE SEEN WITH COVID-19, THAT ACTUALLY IN THE FIRST WEEK MOST PEOPLE HAVE MILD SYMPTOMS AND SOMETIMES SLIGHTLY SICKER BUT ACTUALLY THE REAL TURN COMES AS DR. FAUCI SAYS, YOU KNOW, AROUND A SEVEN OR DAY NINE WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A MORE SEVERE RESPONSE AND NEED TO BE ADMITTED TO THE HOSPITAL FOR OXYGEN OR OTHER KINDS OF SUPPORT AND IT'S QUITE A LONG DISEASE FROM ACTUALLY GETTING IT AND DYING, AN AVERAGE IS ABOUT 21 DAYS SO I THINK RIGHT NOW IT IS TOO EARLY TO SAY HE'S THROUGH THE WORST AND HE'S CLEAR. ALSO BECAUSE WE'VE SEEN IN A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE RECOVERED THAT THEY DON'T FULLY RECOVER. THEY GET SOMETHING CALLED LONG COVID SO THEY SUFFER FOR WEEKS OR MONTHS WITH FATIGUE OR HEART OR KIDNEY OR LUNG ISSUES SO IT'S QUITE SURPRISING TO HEAR HIM SAY, OKAY, DONE AND DUSTED, IT'S OVER BECAUSE THAT'S NOT WHAT WE'VE LEARNED ABOUT THE DISEASE OVER THE PAST COUPLE MONTHS. >> IT IS SAID THAT THE BRITISH PRIME MINISTER BORIS JOHNSON HAS EFFECTS OF LONG COVID. THEY DENY IT AT TEN DOWNING STREET BUT MANY AROUND HIM POINT TO THE WAY HE'S BEEN BEHAVING AND SOME OF HIS, YOU KNOW, WHATEVER HE'S EXHIBITING AND SAYING THAT HE SHOWS CLASSIC SYMPTOMS. I GUESS THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, WHEN YOU'RE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES, IT'S EVEN MORE CONSEQUENTIAL. IF YOU ARE HOME AND POTENTIALLY HAVE LONG LASTING SYMPTOMS, SO -- AND EFFECTS. I ASK IS THIS THE BEHAVIOR MODELING WE NEED? TELL ME HOW, WHAT YOU THINK IT DOES TO THE GENERAL POPULATION, THE PRESIDENT GOES INTO HOSPITAL, COMES OUT OF THE HOSPITAL, APPARENTLY AGAINST DOCTORS' ORDERS AT THE HOSPITAL, RIPS OFF HIS MASK AND GOES BACK INTO THE WHITE HOUSE WITH A SKELETON CREW, NONETHELESS, INCLUDING BUTLERS, STAFF, MANY OF THEM ELDERLY, MANY OF THEM BLACK AND LATINO, IN FACT. >> IT'S ABSOLUTELY APPALLING. I THINK IT'S SHOCKING TO WATCH THIS AND TO SEE LEADERSHIP AT THAT LEVEL BE SO SELFISH AND SO SELF-CENTERED WHICH ARE THE QUALITIES WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO GET AWAY FROM IN THIS PANDEMIC. IT'S ABOUT LOOKING OUT FOR OTHERS, MAKING SURE YOU DON'T INFECT OTHERS AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE ACCESS TO GOOD MEDICAL CARE SO I THINK IT'S A REAL TRAGEDY FOR THE UNITED STATES TO HAVE THIS KIND LEADERSHIP RIGHT NOW AND THE WORLD IS WATCHING. UNFORTUNATELY, THE UNITED STATES IS NOT GOING TO HOLD THAT POSITION OF BEING THE PREEMINENT COUNTRY, GLOBAL LEADER IN PREPAREDNESS. IF, YOU KNOW, THE WHITE HOUSE HAS MORE CASES IN THIS CLUSTER THAN TAIWAN, VIETNAM, AND NEW ZEALAND, ALL PUT TOGETHER.
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