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>>> NEXT, WE TURN TO TWO HOLLYWOOD BROTHERS WHO MADE THEIR NAMES IN SOME OF AMERICA'S BEST LOVED FAMILY CLASSICS. RON AND CLINT HOWARD WIERE STAR OF "HAPPY DAYS" AND "GENTLE BEN." YOU MAY NOT KNOW CLINT AS WELL AS RON, BUT THEY BOTH HAD SUCCESSFUL INDIVIDUAL CAREERS. DESPITE THAT, IT'S THEIR DECADES OF BROTHERHOOD THEY HAVE CHOSEN TO CELEBRATE IN THEIR JOINT MEMOIR THE T"THE BOYS" AS THEY EXPLAIN TO WALTER ISAACSON. >> THANK YOU. AND RON AND CLINT HOWARD, WELCOME TO THE SHOW. >> IT'S A PLEASURE, WALTER. GOOD TO SEE YOU. >> CONGRATULATIONS ON THE BOOK, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL MEMOIR OF BOTH OF YOU GROWING UP. BUT THERE IS A DEEPER THING, I THINK YOUR DAUGHTER, RON, SAYS IT IN THE INTRO, IT'S ABOUT THE UNBREAKABLE BOND BETWEEN TWO VERY DIFFERENT PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO BE BROTHERS. TELL ME ABOUT FORGING THAT BOND. I'LL START WITH YOU, RON, AND THEN CLINT. >> WELL, IT BEGAN AS WITH A LOT OF THINGS. WE BEGAN, WE DISCOVERED WORKING ON THE BOOK WITH OUR FOLKS, YOU KNOW. KIND OF EARTHY, VERY LOGICAL, GROUNDED MID-WESTERN PEOPLE WHO FELL IN LOVE WITH THE IDEA OF SHOW BUSINESS. AND SOMEHOW THEY MADE THAT DREAM BECOME A REALITY FOR THEM AND EXTENDED IT TO US. BUT THEY WEREN'T IN IT FOR SOME KIND OF SENSE OF GLAMOUR OR EVEN MONEY PARTICULARLY. THEY JUST LOVED BEING A PART OF THE BUSINESS. AND THEY LOVED ARE EACH OTHER. AND THEY TAUGHT US TO NOT BE OVERLY DAZZLED BY THIS WORLD THAT THEY INVITED US INTO AND GUIDED US THROUGH, BUT TO, INSTEAD, CHERISH, YOU KNOW, MOST OF ALL, OUR RELATIONSHIPS AND OUR LOVE OF ONE ANOTHER. WHEN CLINT AND I WOULD GET INTO FIGHTS AND CARRY ON AND I'M FIVE YEARS OLDER, DAD WOULD PULL US APART AND SAY, YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO BE SOMETHING VERY, VERY SPECIAL, VERY PRECIOUS. YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE A CHANCE TO BE FRIENDS THE REST OF YOUR LIFE. IT'S NOT AUTOMATIC JUST BECAUSE YOU'RE BROTHERS. YOU'VE GOT TO MAKE IT BE THAT WAY. I THINK YOU OUGHT TO START RIGHT NOW. IT RUBBED OFF. >> CLINT? >> WELL, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I LOVE MY PARENTS DEARLY, AND DAD WAS SO SPECIAL. IT WASN'T NECESSARILY WHAT HE SAID. IT WAS THE WAY HE SAID IT. AND I JUST -- LISTEN, I WAS BEST FRIENDS WITH MY DAD. HE WAS DAD, BUT I WAS BEST FRIENDS WITH HIM, AND I HAD BONUS TIME BECAUSE I HAD THIS GREAT BIG BROTHER. WE WROTE ABOUT IT IN THE BOOK, ABOUT MY VERY FIRST MEMORY IS LAYING ON HIS BACK AS HE WAS READING ME "THE L.THE L.A. ACCO THE DODGER GAMES. YOU KNOW, IT WAS A REAL PHYSICAL THING, AND I JUST, YOU KNOW, I LOVE RON, AND I STILL DO. AND I CHERISH THE RELATIONSHIP. >> SPEAKING OF PHYSICAL, I GOT TO POINT OUT, CLINT'S GOT HIS BOXING TAPES ON THERE. WE'RE CATCHING HIM AT THE GYM. >> ANYWAY. CLINT IS COMING TO US FROM A GREAT GYM. YOU BEGAN THIS OBOOK WHEN YOUR DAD DIED, I THINK FOUR, FIVE YEARS AGO. TELL ME WHY THAT PROMPTED YOU. >> WELL, I HAD -- RON AND I HAD BOTH TRIED TO CONTROL DAD INTO WRITING A BOOK ABOUT HOW HE DEALT SO BEAUTIFULLY WITH US. HE HAD NO DESIRE TO DO THAT. BUT WITH HIM GONE, RON AND I WERE ORPHANS. AND HIS STORY -- ALTHOUGH EVERYBODY LOVED MOM AND DAD, WE BOTH FELT THEIR STORY WAS UNTOLD AND WE JUST FELT LIKE THIS IS A WONDERFUL OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO NOT JUST TALK ABOUT OURSELVES, BUT TALK ABOUT WHAT INFLUENCE, WHICH 90% OF IT WAS MOM AND DAD. >> PEOPLE WOULD ASK IF WE I WANTED TO DO A BOOK. I NEVER HAD, YOU KNOW, MUCH INTEREST IN THAT. BUT I ACTUALLY ONE DAY TALKING TO TOM HANKS ABOUT IT, WHO IS AN EXCELLENT AUTHOR, IS THIS SOMETHING I SHOULD TACKLE? HE THOUGHT ABOUT IT AND SAID, YEAH, BUT ONLY YOUR CHILDHOOD. WE ALL WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU AND CLINT DID IT. WE WANT TO KNOW HOW YOU MADE IT THROUGH. THERE IS NOSTALGIA, THERE IS CURIOSITY, BUT ALSO RECOGNIZE THD IS REALLY AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO SHARE WITH PEOPLE THIS SORT OF VERY DISTINCTIVE UNIQUE APPROACH THAT OUR PARENTS TOOK TO THIS CHALLENGE, AND, YOU KNOW, AND WHAT IT MEANT TO US. >> DAD HAD THIS MID-WESTERN ZEN SORT OF THING. AND MOM WAS JUST A TORNADO OF ENERGY. SHE WAS A RINGMASTER AND A LEADER AND EVERYBODY THAT SHE WAS, CAME IN CONTACT WITH, SHE LOVED HER. AND I WROTE THIS IN THE BOOK. YOU KNOW, MOM COULD SERIOUSLY MAKE FRIENDS IN AN ELEVATOR IN TWO FLOORS. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST -- THEY WERE GREAT PEOPLE, AND, YOU KNOW, I HOPE PEOPLE GET A GLIMPSE OF THAT AFTER READING THE BOOK. >> IT COMES ACROSS IN THE BOOK, OKLAHOMA FARMERS AND THEY FALL IN LOVE WITH SHOW BUSINESS. THEY MEET, I THINK, IN THEATER CLASS. THEY DROP OUT. THEY GO TO NEW YORK TO DO TV AND THEN TO CALIFORNIA AND THEN THEY START TRAINING TWO GREAT CHILD ACTORS. RON, WHY DON'T YOU TELL ME ABOUT HOW, AT AGE 3, YOUR FATHER TRAINED YOU. >> WELL, HE WAS DIRECTING THEATER. AND HE WAS DELIGHTED WITH THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS ABLE TO MAKE A LIVING IN THIS BUSINESS. HE NEVER QUITE REACHED THE GARY COOPER, GENE AUTRY LEVEL OF HIS DREAMS, BUT HE MADE A LIVING, AND WORKED AS A CHARACTER ACTOR AND ALSO A DIRECTOR. DIRECTED A LOT OF SUMMER STOCK THEATER. AND WHEN I WAS 2 AND 3, MY PARENTS WOULD BOTH BE WORKING ON PLAYS ALL SUMMER AND I WOULD BE HANGING OUT AND THEY BEGAN TO REALIZE I WAS MIMICKING THE ACTORS, I WAS PICKING UP ON THE DIALOGUE. THEY THOUGHT THAT WAS FUNNY. AND ONE OF MY EARLIEST MEMORIES IS DOING A SCENE THAT WE MEMORIZED FROM THE PLAY "MR. ROBERTS" THAT MY DAD HAD BEEN IN ON BROADWAY WITH HENRY FONDA. HE WOULD PLAY THE HENRY FOND PART AND I WOULD PLAY THE JACK LEMON PART AND I REMEMBER GETTING LAUGHS IN THE LIVING ROOM DOING THE SCENE FOR PEOPLE AND ONE DAY WHEN HE WAS MAKING THE ROUNDS IN NEW YORK, WHICH IS WHAT ACTORS USED TO HAVE TO DO IN THOSE DAYS, HE STUMBLED UPON A CASTING DIRECTOR'S LOBBY FILLED WITH KIDS FOR A MOVIE THAT MGM WAS MAKING CALLED "THE JOURNEY" STARRING YULE BRENNER AND DEBORAH KA. HE LEFT A MESSAGE AND WANTED TO SAY SOMETHING MEMORABLE. BY THE WAY, I HAVE A SON WHO IS A FINE ACTOR. SO LO AND BEHOLD HE GOT A CALL BACK SAYING, WELL, BRING YOUR SON N I WENT IN AND DID THIS SCENE WHERE I PLAYED THE JACK LEMON FARTHER IN "MR. ROBERTS" AND THEY LAUGHED AND THEY SAID DO YOU THINK YOU CAN LEARN ANYTHING ELSE? MY DAD SAID, I GOT TO TELL YOU, I HAVE NO IDEA. >> CLINT, COULD YOU HAVE SOMETHING ABOUT YOUR FATHER KNOWING THERE WAS A THIRD BWAY O TEACH AND COACH A KID TO ACT, NOT TO MIMIC THE LINE, BUT ACTUALLY BE HIMSELF. TELL ME HOW HE TAUGHT YOU THAT AT AGE 2. >> WE ARE SOMEWHAT OF A CIRCUS FAMILY. I LEARNED HOW TO WALK THE HIGH-WIRE AS I WAS LEARNING HOW TO WALK. SO I DON'T REALLY REMEMBER THE DETAILS, BUT DAD WAS VERY SIMPLE. HONESTY, LOOK THE OTHER CHARACTERS IN THE EYE, KNOW WHERE YOU HAVE BEEN, KNOW WHAT YOU WANT, AND KNOW WHERE YOU WANT TO GO. AND HE WOULD BOIL IT DOWN. IT WASN'T A MATTER OF LEARNING THE DIALOGUE. IT WAS LEARNING THE EMOTION OF THE SCENE. AND, YOU KNOW, WE CALLED IT HOMEWORK, BUT IT WAS FUN. IT WAS A FUN EXPLORATION. AND I REALLY, REALLY ENJOYED BEING A CHILD ACTOR. IT WASN'T UNTIL I HIT ADOLESCENCE TO WHERE I START TODAY DEVELOP THE INSECURITIES THAT 99.9% OF ACTORS HAVE, YOU KNOW. AS A KID, IT WAS ALL CONFIDENCE AND IT WAS MOM AND DAD, THEY WERE RESPONSIBLE FOR THAT. >> BUT YOU SAY IN THE BOOK THAT YOU HAD SOME EMOTIONAL SCAR TISSUE FROM THAT PERIOD. EXPLAIN THAT. >> LISTEN, YOU KNOW, GETTING EMOTIONAL IS SOMETHING. I THINK THERE IS A LITTLE -- THERE IS A LITTLE PAY THAT YOU'VE GOT TO -- YOU KNOW, IT TAKES A LITTLE BITE OUT OF YOU. AND CRYING AND DELIVERING THOSE EMOTIONS, DAD TAUGHT ME HOW TO GET THERE. THE ONE PARTICULAR MOMENT THAT I HAD WHERE THERE WAS SCAR TISSUE IS WHEN I WAS REQUIRED OR ASKED TO KILL A BUZZARD ON FILM. TO PICK UP A BUZZARD BY THE BACK OF THE LEGS AND SMASH HIS HEAD AGAINST A ROCK UNTIL HE WAS DEAD. AND I WAS 13 YEARS OLD, AND, YOU KNOW, I DID IT. I TOOK ONE FOR THE TEAM JUST LIKE IT WAS EXPLAINED TO ME THAT THE BUZZARD WAS GOING TO TAKE ONE FOR THE TEAM AND WE WERE MAKING THIS FAIRLY IMPORTANT MOVIE. IT WAS THE "RED PONY." THAT WAS SOMETHING -- IT STILL HAUNTS ME. IT'S HARD -- I LOVE THAT MOVIE. I GOT TO ACT WITH HANK FONDA, BEN JOHNSON. AND YET THERE IS A SCENE IN THAT MOVIE THAT I BASICALLY HAVE TO TURN AWAY FROM BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I AM NOT THAT GUY, BUT I PICKED UP A BUZZARD AND KILLED IT. >> A THING LIKE THAT WOULD NEVER BE ALLOWED TO HAPPEN TODAY WHAT CLINT'S DESCRIBING. BUT THE TONE, YOU KNOW, AROUND A SET, IT WAS CRASS. IT WAS COWBOY. IT WAS SAILOR TALK. IT WAS, YOU KNOW, UBER MASCULINE TO A TOXIC DEGREE. AND, YOU KNOW, AND THERE ARE MANY THINGS THAT I AM INCREDIBLY GRATEFUL WE HAVE EVOLVED OUT OF AS A CULTURE, YET THERE IS THIS FUNDAMENTAL COLLECTIVE EFFORT TO TELL A STORY, TO MAXIMIZE THE POTENTIAL OF A STORY. DAD TAUGHT US THAT SO WE WEREN'T PERFORMING. WE WEREN'T PLAYACTING. WE WERE UNDERSTANDING AND ENGAGING AND IT EARNED US A LOT OF RESPECT WITHIN -- AMONG ADULTS. CAN YOU IMAGINE WHAT THAT MEANS TO A CHILD'S SELF-ESTEEM TO RECOGNIZE THEY CAN ACTUALLY FUNCTION IN THIS ENVIRONMENT? YES, LATER WHEN YOU ARE A TEEN, THE RUG CAN OFTEN BE PULLED OUT FROM UNDER YOU AND THAT CAN BE EMOTIONALLY BRUTAL. THE BUSINESS IS KIND OF DESIGNED TO GENERATE SOME EMOTIONAL WRECKAGE. BUT IF YOU CAN GET THROUGH IT, YOU KNOW, THERE WERE SO MANY VALUABLE LESSONS TO BE LEARNED AND SO MANY OF THOSE FUNDAMENTALS -- THOSE ARE WHAT I BUILT MY ADULT CAREER ON, AND SORT OF BULT MY FAMILY AROUND. >> RON, WHAT PIECE OF ADVICE DID YOUR DAD GIVE YOU BEING PLAYING OPIE ON THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW? >> HE DIDN'T DIRECTLY GIVE ME ANY ADVICE. HE REACHED OUT TO ANDY GRIFFITH EARLY IN THE SHOW, PROBABLY THE FIRST EPISODE THAT WE WERE DOING. HE GAINED ENOUGH RESPECT THAT HE COULD HAVE THIS CONVERSATION, AND HE BASICALLY SAID, LOOK, RIGHT NOW I CAN SEE THAT THEY ARE WRITING THE OPIE/ANDY RELATIONSHIP THE WAY MOST SITCOM RELATIONSHIPS ARE WRITTEN BETWEEN FATHERS AND SONS. HE IS KIND OF A WISE ASS. HE, YOU KNOW, AND HE OUTSMARTS THE DAD AND IT'S KIND OF FUNNY AND RONNIE CAN DO THAT. BUT WHAT IF IT WAS DIFFERENT? WHAT IF OPIE ACTUALLY RESPECTED HIS FATHER? I THINK YOU CAN FIND COMEDY IN THAT TRUTH AS WELL. AND I DIDN'T KNOW THIS AT THE TIME. ANDY TOLD ME THIS STORY WHEN I WAS ABOUT 38 YEARS OLD, THAT THIS IS THE WAY THE OPIE/ANDY RELATIONSHIP WAS TAILORED AND SHAPED WAS THROUGH THIS CONVERSATION, AND THEN ANDY SAYING TO THE WRITERS, LET'S WRITE ANDY/OPIE THAT WAY. >> THERE WAS A WEEK IN AMERICA WHEN "GENTLE BEN," WHICH YOU WERE IN, DLINT, AND THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW, WHICH YOU WERE IN, RON, WERE NUMBER ONE AND TWO IN THE RATINGS. HOW DID YOU ALL AVOID DEVELOPING A RIVALRY? >> LISTEN, YOU KNOW, A HEALTHY COMPETITION I THINK IS GOOD. LISTEN, "GENTLE BEN" WAS THE LITTLE SHOW DOWN IN FLORIDA THAT WAS TRYING REAL HARD. WE ROSE IN THE RATINGS THAT YEAR. I WOULD BE LYING TO TELL YOU THAT I DIDN'T WANT "GENTLE BEN" TO TOP OUT ONE WEEK, YOU KNOW. BUT IT WAS AN ABSOLUTE THRILL WHEN -- I THINK ONE WEEK WE WERE ONE AND FOUR AND THEN ONE WEEK WE WERE ONE AND TWO. AND THAT WAS THAT GOOD WEEK TO BE A HOWARD. >> AND I HAD -- I FOUND THE VARIETY, HOLLYWOOD VARIETY THAT HAD THE RATINGS, AND I WAS PARADING IT AROUND THE SET SHOWING IT TO ANDY AND SHOWING IT TO EVERYBODY. I WAS, YOU KNOW, SO HAPPY ABOUT THAT. THAT WAS A THRILL. >> WHEN THOSE SHOWS ENDED, DID YOU HAVE TO FACE SOME PROFESSIONAL INSECURITIES? >> I DEFINITELY -- WELL, I DIDN'T FEEL INSECURE AT THAT TIME, BUT I WAS IN FOR A RUDE AWAKENING, WHICH WAS, YEAH, I HAD ALWAYS GOTTEN PRETTY MUCH ANY ROLE I WENT ON. WHEN "THE ANDY GRIFFITH SHOW" ENDED I CRIED LIKE A BABY WHICH IS EMBARRASSING WHEN YOU ARE 14 YEARS OLD. BUT THOSE PEOPLE MEANT THAT MUCH TO ME. IN ANOTHER COUPLE YEARS I FELT INTO THAT PERIOD WHERE PEOPLE WHO ARE OVER 18 WHO CAN WORK NON-STOP HOURS WITH NO RESTRICTIONS WHATSOEVER START TO GET YOUR ROLES. AND THAT IS THAT TIME WHEN CHILD ACTORS WHO ARE ALSO DEALING WITH ACNE AND, NOW, ALL KINDS OF INSECURITIES AND IDENTITY CRISIS AND EVERYTHING YOU CAN IMAGINE, ARE THEN SUDDENLY FINDING THEMSELVES PERSONA NON GRATA OR CERTAINLY LIMIT INSIDE TERMS OF THE INDUSTRY SO WELCOMING, SO CELEBRATORY, YOU KNOW. IT'S SUDDENLY THEY'VE KIND OF TURNED THEIR BACKS ON YOU. I DEFINITELY SUFFERED THROUGH THAT PERIOD. AND I ALSO BEGAN TO DREAM MORE THAN EVER ABOUT HAVING AUTONOMY, CREATIVE AUTONOMY, PROFESSIONAL AUTONOMY, AND IT LED ME, FUELED ME NOT ONLY TO RECOGNIZE I WAS GOING TO HAVE TO COMPETE FOR JOBS AS AN ACTOR IF I WANTED TO DO IT, I WOULD HAVE TO MAKE THE ROUNDS THE WAY MY DAD D, BE ASSERTIVE, BUT I ALSO WANTED TO CONTROL MY OWN CREATIVE DESTINY AND PROFESSIONAL DESTINY. I HAVE WANTED TO BE A DIRECT EARLY >> CLINT, THERE IS A PART IN THE BOOK WHERE YOU TALK ABOUT A LITTLE BIT OF AN ENVY OF RON IN WHICH HE HAS A GIRLFRIEND, YOU KNOW, HE IS DOING WELL, AND YOU SAY THAT YOU STARTED SMOKING POT AND INTO HARDER DRUGS AND ALCOHOL, THAT THATBECAME YOUR GIRLFRIEND. TELL ME ABOUT THAT DESCENT INTO DRUGS AND ALCOHOL. >> WALTER, YOU KNOW, LISTEN, I LOVED -- I LOVED SMOKING WEED. I MEAN, IN FACT, LISTEN, CHECK ME IF I'M WRONG, BUT IT'S A LITTLE ODD WHEN A FELLOW IS SO ANXIOUS TO SMOKE MARIJUANA THAT HE TAKES THE PENCIL SHAVINGS FROM HIS PENCIL SHARPENER AND TWISTS UP A DOOBIE AND SMOKES IT. YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT CAME FROM. I HAD GOOD SELF-ESTEEM WHEN I WAS 14, 15, 16 YEARS OLD. I WAS HAVING A LITTLE TROUBLE WITH, YOU KNOW, GETTING DATES AND HAVING FEMALE RELATIONSHIPS. I LOOKED AT RON AND HE HAD THIS SOLID THING GOING ON WITH SHERYL, AND, YOU KNOW, I AM NOT SURE ENJVY WAS THE RIGHT WORD. IF YOU WANT SOMETHING THAT SOMEBODY'S GOT, I GUESS THAT'S ENVY. AND AGAIN THE WAY I DID EQUATE IT WAS, YOU KNOW, SMOKING DOPE BECAME MY GIRLFRIEND. AND IT WAS, YOU KNOW, A NASTY TRAP. I PAID A PRETTY HEAVY PRICE LATER IN MY LIFE. I DON'T REGRET THE PAST, BUT I DON'T WANT TO GO DOWN THAT ROAD AGAIN. >> A LOT OF CHILD ACTORS' STORIES ARE, THEY END UP BEING TRAGEDIES. I THINK YOU USE PRETTY STRONG LANGUAGE ABOUT HOW, YOU KNOW, WAITING TO BE A TRAGEDY. HOW DID YOU AND RON AVOID THAT? >> I HAD GREAT, GREAT ROLE MODELS. I HAD DAD, AND THEN I LOOKED OVER TO MY LEFT AND I HAD THIS BEAUTIFUL BIG BROTHER THAT LOVED ME AND HE WOULD ALWAYS INCLUDE ME IN GAMES OF OVER THE LINE AND WIFFLE BALL. IT WAS -- I HAD THE BEST OF BOTH WORLDS. FROM MY CHAIR, IT WAS, YOU KNOW, LIFE WAS BEAUTIFUL. LIFE WAS GREAT. LET ME JUST BACK UP AND SAY ONE THING. I HAD A GREAT PERSPECTIVE OF WATCHING MY BROTHER BREAK IN AS A DIRECTOR. BECAUSE I SAW HOW LITTLE CREDIBILITY HE WAS GIVEN, AND FROM MY PERSPECTIVE, FROM VERY EARLY ON I THOUGHT, THIS DUDE'S GOT THE GOODS TO DO IT. HE IS AS GOOD -- AT 15 YEARS OLD HE COULD HAVE DIRECTED TELEVISION WITHOUT A DOUBT, YOU KNOW. THERE WAS NOTHING -- HE WAS AS GOOD AS ANYBODY. AND, LISTEN, WITH THE OPIE SHAMING, LISTEN, THAT'S PROBABLY THE WORST THING THAT RON EVER DEALT WITH, WAS -- NOT THE WORST THING, BUT, LISTEN, I WOULD NOT HAVE WANTED TO HAVE BEEN OPIE. YOU KNOW, TOO EASY TO GET PICKED ON. AND THE CHEERLEADERS OF THE OTHER SCHOOLS, OPIE, OPIE! I WATCHED HIM HAVE THIS DREAM TO BE A DIRECTOR. I KNEW. I KNEW MY BIG BROTHER IS GOING TO KICK ASS. THROUGH EARLY ADULTHOOD AND RON IN HIS EARLY DIRECTING CAREER I WAS SO FRIGGIN' PROUD. LOOK AT HIM. HE IS KICKING ASS, YOU KNOW? I WAS GOING TO SAY, I SAY SO FROM THE BEGINNING. >> CLINT HOWARD, RON HOWARD, THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. >> PLEASURE, WALTER. THANK YOU SORE HAVING US. >> THANK YOU.