Hovde and Baldwin on the Second Amendment and gun control
Wisconsin Democratic incumbent U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin and Republican challenger Eric Hovde, running in the 2024 election, share stances on mass shootings, gun laws and the Second Amendment.
By Steven Potter | Here & Now
October 15, 2024
VIDEO TRANSCRIPT
Steven Potter:
Gun control. Where do you stand on that and what should the US Senate do there?
Eric Hovde:
I'm a believer in the Second Amendment. I'm absolutely a believer in the Second Amendment, and I understand why the Second Amendment was the Second Amendment after our right of free speech. Because, as long as people have a right to bear arms, you will never be able to have a government to become authoritative and, you know, and impose its will on the population. So I am a supporter of the Second Amendment and, you know, I know the attack on it is about gun violence. But the reality of it, is if somebody wants to harm somebody, they do not need a gun to do that. Look, the Christmas, or the person who got in the car and drove through the Christmas parade and killing all those people — you've had so many incidents. Probably the biggest one was Oklahoma City. Two young guys packed a truck with fertilizer, drove it into a government building, sadly, where there was a childcare center and blew up and cost, lost over 200, I think it was 280-something lives. So if somebody wants to do harm and damage, there's a lot of ways they can do that. So I believe in the Second Amendment and, yeah, that's my position.
Steven Potter:
School shootings continue to happen. Where do you stand on gun control?
U.S. Sen. Tammy Baldwin:
Well, I'm a gun owner myself, and I support the Second Amendment, but I also believe that the Second Amendment is not at all inconsistent with sound gun safety measures. We passed, two years ago, one of the first gun safety measures that had been passed in nearly three decades, called the Safer Communities Act. That was passed on a bipartisan basis in the wake of the tragic Uvalde shooting. That measure provides a number of tools to help make sure, especially youthful purchasers of firearms, have extra scrutiny in their background checks. That extra scrutiny has led to thousands of purchase denials, and it also contains a provision regarding red flag laws. So if somebody is adjudicated to be of imminent risk to themselves or others, you can temporarily take away their firearms. It encourages states that don't currently have red flag laws to pass them, and, sadly, Wisconsin does not currently have any red flag laws. But I encourage this next state Legislature to get on that job right away because that could certainly help avoid tragedies here in the state of Wisconsin. There's also a lot of allocation for mental health services in that measure, particularly in schools, so you can identify a youth. And so many of these tragic shootings recently have been by very young people — 14, 15 years old. I certainly support additional measures. I want to see universal background checks, no exceptions. No transfers of guns should take place without a thorough background check. That would keep guns out of the hands of dangerous criminals who aren't, you know, who are trying to purchase in ways that don't get the scrutiny of the background check system. I also believe that we should look at banning the high capacity magazines that have no purpose outside of military applications. And there are a number of other safety measures that I think we should encourage, including public service of encouraging people to secure their guns, make sure that they have safety locks, and make sure that they won't be accidentally used or discharged in their homes.
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