Brad Schimel, Susan Crawford on the Jan. 6 pardons by Trump
Wisconsin Supreme Court candidates Brad Schimel and Susan Crawford discuss pardons made by President Donald Trump of people convicted of crimes related to the Jan. 6, 2021 U.S. Capitol insurrection.
By Zac Schultz | Here & Now
March 5, 2025
VIDEO TRANSCRIPT
Brad Schimel:
You know, presidents have the power to pardon people. There's some arguments about what that means. But as for the January 6 defendants — anyone who engaged in violence, anyone who assaulted a police officer, used force to go into the Capitol — personally, I have some dispute with them being granted a pardon in those circumstances. I don't know the individual facts of every case. And the arguments I hear is that many of them did not engage in violence that day. That's the president's prerogative to choose whether to pardon them or not.
Susan Crawford:
Yeah, well, first of all, the president under the Constitution has very broad authority to grant pardons. There are no limits stated in the U.S. Constitution for the exercise of that authority. But, in my view, the pardon should be exercised appropriately by any president when they believe that it advances the interests of justice. And, in my view, those pardons of individuals who stormed our nation's Capitol and attacked law enforcement officers violently, injuring many of them, I think those pardons were completely inappropriate because that did not advance the interests of justice. Similarly, we saw the pardon used by outgoing President Biden to pardon family members, and again, I have concerns about that because I believe that's an exercise of the pardon that also is not in the interests of justice.
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