Nathan Denzin:

The harsh reality is from the first day they are born, Black babies are much less likely to thrive and more likely to die than white infants in Wisconsin. The same holds true for their mothers. In fact, this has been true since the first infant and maternal mortality data was gathered in 1912.

Tiffany Green:

I think one of the big things that people don’t realize is that this is a problem that we have identified more than a century ago.

Nathan Denzin:

Tiffany Green is a professor for population health sciences at UW-Madison. She says that while overall maternal mortality has greatly decreased in the last century, the gap between Black and white mothers and infants has persisted especially in Wisconsin.

Tiffany Green:

We still unfortunately have among the highest Black infant mortality rates in the country, meaning Black babies that don’t reach their first birthday. Black birthing people have about five times the pregnancy related mortality rate relative to their white counterparts in Wisconsin.

Jasmine Zapata:

In general, we are leaders in the nation as it relates to many of the inequities that we see.

Nathan Denzin:

Dr. Jasmine Zapata is the chief medical officer for community health at the Wisconsin Department of Health Services.

Jasmine Zapata:

There’s no one answer. We could talk about this for hours and hours. It’s multifactorial.

Nathan Denzin:

Advocates say one potential reason we see disparities is because healthcare providers can carry implicit biases into the clinic.

Jasmine Zapata:

So a lot of times when we talk about implicit bias and talk about racism in our healthcare system, a lot of people think about, like, direct interpersonal racism where somebody would come up to me and say, “I don’t want you to treat me cuz you’re Black.” That’s not a lot of what we see. A lot of it is unintentional.

Nathan Denzin:

Because of those unintentional biases, Zapata says Black people are less likely to go to a doctor when something is wrong, which can lead to worse health outcomes.

Jasmine Zapata:

There are many people, especially in the maternal and child health fields, that have access, that have insurance, and they’re still not attending their healthcare appointments. Just because you have insurance and you can physically make an appointment, is it somewhere that you feel safe and comfortable.

Nathan Denzin:

But while access to quality healthcare can be a large driver in outcomes, national data shows that even the infants of the richest Black mothers suffer worse health outcomes than the babies of the poorest white mothers.

Tiffany Green:

I think we focus a lot on hospitals and doctors because that is something we can easily wrap our heads around, but the reality is there are a lot of reasons, and I think they have a lot more to do with the social environment.

Nathan Denzin:

And the societal environment for Black Wisconsinites is one defined by racism. When it comes to where Black Wisconsinites live, only a quarter own their own home. They face one of the highest income gaps in the country and are five times more likely to live in a food desert than white people.

Tiffany Green:

A lot of people have linked things like segregation, things like the resource-deprived environments to poor, to the risk of prematurity, and those things matter.

Nathan Denzin:

Dr. Zapata says she experienced this difference in outcomes firsthand when she had her second child.

Jasmine Zapata:

I got pregnant with my second child, a little baby girl. I was so excited. And she was due on January 2nd, but on September 20, I had a sharp pain in my lower abdomen.

Nathan Denzin:

When it happened, she was in class for medical school and knew something was wrong. Doctors told her that it was just false labor, but when she saw blood a few minutes later, she went to the hospital.

Jasmine Zapata:

Ultimately, within two hours, I was in an emergency c-section and I delivered a one-and-a-half-pound baby who didn’t cry when she came out. When babies come out, they’re supposed to be kicking, screaming, crying. It was completely silent.

Nathan Denzin:

Her daughter was then taken to the neonatal intensive care unit to start her breathing.

Jasmine Zapata:

It was so hard for me at that moment because I knew all the statistics about Black birth outcomes.

Nathan Denzin:

After three weeks in the NICU, Zapata’s baby was able to thrive and is now a very healthy teenager, but Zapata knew the outcome could have been much different.

Jasmine Zapata:

I knew that it was an honor that she was there with me because there are so many other birthing people and families, particularly Black women, Black birthing people, who do not have that same outcome.

Tiffany Green:

There are reasons above and beyond, sort of these individual level characteristics that don’t explain why we are seeing these disparities.

Nathan Denzin:

But there is work being done to bring parity to birth outcomes for Black mothers and infants. In 2022, Governor Evers announced $16 million in additional funding for DHS to work on closing those gaps.

Jasmine Zapata:

We’re currently working on this with intensity and passion.

Nathan Denzin:

Dr. Zapata says there are three big things that money is going toward: increasing access to healthcare for Black mothers and infants, educating current healthcare practitioners about the issues, and increasing the number of Black doctors and nurses.

Jasmine Zapata:

We will have a bigger impact if we can go upstream and focus on how can we eliminate some of the very factors and social determinants of health that cause some of these health outcomes in the first place.

Nathan Denzin:

Along with the $16 million, healthcare providers in Dane County have another effort to improve the social determinants of health called ConnectRx. ConnectRx is a program that provides support to pregnant Black people at risk.

Tiffany Green:

Making sure families at risk of losing their places are getting housing, making sure that they are getting food. I’ve been privileged to hear stories about people getting employment that they need.

Nathan Denzin:

The program also connects mothers with doulas if they choose and with an individual community health worker, both during pregnancy and after.

Tiffany Green:

I’m just stunned at the work that they’ve been able to do that addresses these social determinants.

Nathan Denzin:

But even with these programs, Green says more needs to be done.

Tiffany Green:

When we talk about things like Medicaid expansion, which we have refused to do in our state, despite the fact that places like Georgia and Mississippi have expanded postpartum Medicaid for up to a year.

Nathan Denzin:

The Wisconsin Legislature removed Medicaid expansion from the governor’s budget again in 2023, making Wisconsin one of only a few states which has not expanded postpartum coverage.

Tiffany Green:

If we live in a Wisconsin where everybody is able to reach their highest potential, everybody needs access to a provider.

Nathan Denzin:

While expanded coverage remains elusive, health officials look to fill the gaps and improve the outcomes wherever they can. For “Here & Now,” I’m Nathan Denzin.